uhh what

> I remember trump having a lot more to do with that than the average republican would care to acknowledge.

Not a trumper - sorry.

> Does this mean you also voted for Bush?

No, I was a democrat through high school until the 2016 election. After watching the DNC collude against Bernie at the top levels with DWS at the helm I realized I wanted nothing to do with democrats. Essentially politically homeless, but caucus with hill billies. Did not vote for trump, but did not vote for Hillary either. (that woman has a lot of skeletons in her closet. did ya hear about the haiti relief fund the Clinton foundation took nearly all the money from?)

While I am a rino, I don't follow the public platform of the GOP, that's what the name RINO implies. Think more like Phil Scott and not your crazy Obama hating uncle. In fact, I think Obama was the last respectable president we had IMHO.

Simply put - liberal with social policy, conservative with fiscal policy, live a rural life, work in tech, make things with my hands for fun.

Rino. Former 2000's democrat.

You really paid no attention to the fact that we had supply shortages on things like masks, toilet paper and other products during the beginning of the pandemic.

Globalism and the "r word" is the only thing you got from that? wow. please read again.

> To which I say, that's not the frycooks fault and the EMT should be paid more. Worker solidarity & all that jazz.

Hell no, I used to be that fry cook too dude. Just cause I traded my kitchen clothes for a button up shirt doesn't mean I do not understand the struggle.

The economy is "allegedly" a delicate balance between inputs, outputs and the poor bastards in-between caught in the cross fire.

The labor market isn't well, we can both agree that benefits and wages need to rise and certainly it would not hurt one bit if products and housing inventory went down in price- but that likely wont ever happen.

A lot of our GDP is caught up in health care. A staggering 80%. This is why lobbyists are always shut down things like single payer health care and my republican fellows are too retarded to realize that they should adopt a progressive stance on healthcare because every single american would benefit from it. Politics aside, our economy needs to pivot from services / tourism and move into production if we want to see more better paying jobs. It's all too clear that Covid taught us we cannot rely on other nations to produce product things for us - we need to make more products or we are going to have a hard fucking time putting food on the table, or even having food at all. The fact that farms and manufacturing keep getting shut down in the states is absolutely appalling and the incoming generation needs to fix this - we cannot rely on globalism to fill in the gaps of our needs.

Anyone want to talk about artisanal cobalt mining in the congo? bet ya'll don't know what kinda hell those fellers go through so we can have lithium ion batteries.

Agreed. It's definitely crazy shit when you get into the nitty gritty of things.

I had a buddy that did some crazy shit to his late 90's prelude. Dropped an H22 in it, super charger, and all sorts of goodies.

We would spend hours on the highway tuning air / fuel rations with honda shop cat doing pulls on 89.

Fun fucking times.

you will sleep in the pods where our advertisements run 24/7.

yeah - i've gotten better at it since getting into wood working... takes time, patience and ambition. Rebuilding a motor is no easy feat though, props to you for getting to that level of mechanical mastery.

> Yeah notice how all of that happened without wages keeping up.

Right, so me going from 45k - I was downgraded in pay during the pandemic because my business took a nose dive to working at 80k a year is stagnant wages.

Have you seen the sorts of wages that are being advertised even at fast food and gas stations? Those jobs are paying more than what I was making as an enterprise IT pro in the mid 2010's.

I think the thing you're actually trying to argue is more like the bigmac index - if product costs 2.50 and takes a quarter of a min wage working hour to purchase and now is 4.50 but requires the same proportion of your wage to purchase despite making more money - is that more along the lines you're thinking?

It will though.

Inputs raise outputs.

Landlords and businesses take notice when the wages are on the upswing. Shit I'm making 80k now and I'm taking home roughly the same amount of groceries for the same proportion of pay when I was making 50k. Well that's partially due to supply chain issues we can't just sit there and say over and over and over again that we're experiencing a crazy supply chain issue because of COVID - we've been knee deep in this shit for nearly 3 years now. Businesses and supply chains should have figured their shit out by now. COVID ain't going away, and now that we're all making more money people are capitalizing on it.

No shit

As do I. I still do stuff. I got 4 kiddos in our household.

less than $50 dollar sunday afternoon activity. You can even drink while you do it.

YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY!

it's funny how ya'll turn republican when it comes to car inspections.

> unnecessary bodywork

So you'd rather get whacked with fines rather than spending a sunday afternoon with some bondo and sand paper? man you're basic.

that would be pretty groovy.

careful though: taxes will eat you alive, not just with property taxes, but on those sick gainz too.

I'm still shocked about how the vermont subreddit views single family homes and all. folks keep advocating for these huge apartment buildings thinking we have the infrastructure to handle a huge people box and yet the buses don't even run on time. Additionally, single family homes open the opportunity for ownership in more than just owning a POS - you have room to do shit and privacy that comes with that. I know if I was living in an apartment building I'd be evicted for making guitars and all other craft projects I do. No one wants to be smelling my lacquer, nor do they want to hear my power tools at 2 am when creativity strikes.

agreed - but let's not forget the real crux of the issue - the cost of housing is too damn high, wages get higher that will likely affect the cost of goods. it's like we need to cost of housing to come down, and wages to go up. Cost of goods is fucking your wallet just as much as housing.

> If this pace keeps up we'll be homeless and forced out.

forced out by taxes or flat landers with fat bank?

> why are Vermont legislators waiting on an inevitable catastrophe to deal with the immediate problem of a housing crisis affecting Vermonters now?

you're new to politics I guess.. It was the same thing even under democratic governorship. we're boned either way.

indeed mr. pickler

> states are going to become more uninhabitable due to climate induced events

cant wait to see that play out. the earth shall take back what is rightfully theirs.

> labor is scarce/expensive.

best time to get into the trades if you wanna make some real money. None of that smith barney bullshit needed. Just a can do attitude and the willingness to learn on the job.

> Allow developers to come in and mandate a certain percentage for low income residents. Problem solved.

That's not what developers are going to want. They want to make high dollar, high profit units.

> rent-to-own communities

people will take offense to that. urban sprawl, property ownership, those are things a lot of folks deem satanic.