> But I’d definitely hesitate to call the cops in many situations if I wasn’t.

We don't. Shit the mrs got pulled over last night for having a head light out, no registration or insurance on hand and they didn't even ticket her! St. Albans police at that! She just has to get the problem fixed and send her missing information to the PD.

NuRepublicans are not part of the evangelical right.

considering the mods are all blue collar and decent people - your argument holds no merit and is flawed.

> It's not your property and shooting someone over a property issue is generally not going to win in court

Well if someone is breaking into your home - you should never shoot first, make your presence known, and be armed. Whether it be a firearm or a baseball bat, do not engage the home invader without having some sort of assurance. it's best to call the police first and then try to get an idea of what's going on.

under no circumstances should any of us just take a home invasion lightly. these are real legit crimes and I do not care how disenfranchised a person is. they hungry? - steal from a grocery store or do the lawful thing and go to a food shelf. Need drugs? steal from a fucking dept store, not a persons' home.

> Why would you shoot them?

why invade my home? why steal my things? why incite fear in the hearts of two PoC's?

I refuse to let anyone break into my home and rummage through my family's things as if they are their own. We moved away from burlington to expressly avoid these incursions. There is no level of sympathy for those who break through locked doors and shuttered windows for their own gain, the only exception being that of a family member or someone mentally disabled.

I don't shoot first, but I am going to ask questions with a weapon drawn.

you are correct. Shooting the air does nothing but cause potential unintended consequences, aiming for the head is not an easy shot and can cause unintended consequences. Center mass is king.

> “call the police”

"ACKTULLY CALLING THE POLICE MIGHT END UP GETTING SOMEONE KILLED"

Call the police, pull out my EDC and tell the mother fucker to get out.

Do not shoot unless threatened, but stay vigilant. It's my home mother fucker - they aint stealing shit.

i think at this point - both.

VTGOP called and confirmed - you're not even on their radar.

Man that sounds holy when you say it like that. 🙏

I have to agree with that assessment

> Confederate flags.. in Vermont.. you really can't fix stupid, can you?

that shit truly pisses me off. folks waving those flags have no idea that we put up a hell of a fight against the south, we were also part of the underground railroad. You'd think that the losers' flag should be a icon of getting your ass kicked - but they wear their loss with some form of white trash pride that I just don't understand.

> Can VTers ever just accept that there is something, anything, wrong with the state without trying to distract from the issue?

Oh I do. Crime is up, more homeless folk than ever, cost of living is fucked, and most natives are moving out and flatlanders are moving in. Shit is real fucked.

the joys of tourism econ

I support this.

I was trying to avoid saying Flatlanders.

well hopefully they will see the issue for us natives as what it is and not just some ploy for white nationalism or whatever.

it's frustrating that the place I grew up, have generational roots / history is slowly trying to price me and my family out of. I get that a lot of folks think that vermont natives are all white dudes and far right or whatever, but we're mixed race, some of us liberal and some of us not liberal. We belong here just as much as any of these entitled "flat landers".

there is no housing. people snatched it all up.

I second this notion. Great community. I have learned a lot hanging out with those folks.

The section 8 and 55 plus crowd are the ones that are desperately hurting.

still, with the way everything is going up in price - might want to save up more money.

offroad diesel like others suggested will hold you over!

I've had to do it too dude.

> nobody really cares anyway unless you are in the boonies.

From the boonies. We don't give a fuck. Just be cool 😎

Try using a powered antenna - it helps with attenuation and boosts quality if the fresnel of the broadcasting tower is not completely blocked.