> What sort of new exports from the state?

anything really at this point. furniture, guitars, alpaca wool cock sheaths - whatever it takes for us to move our industry from service work to production.

no problem. thank you for reading.

lol

oh well! sucks to suck!

that's what folks did in CA when there was grid issues.... lol

depends on the station. some have towing services. even EV chargers!

shitty tesla too!

must be one of those legendary flatlander terraformers!

> Just trying to understand your point of view

I'll say it - I am an asshole. Born and bred Vermonter. Grew up low income (welfare).

> why is me bringing a remote job bad?

We're not making enough exports. Our economy is based on tourism and hospitality which is awful. This provides few opportunities for people to make good money (above 40k), and with the cost of living being outrageous here, it's hard to keep folks employed and housed. The effect of all this causes a lot of folks born here to move away and seek opportunities elsewhere, eroding our culture and perpetuating this revolving door of natives out - out of state folks in. I get that this has been the norm since the 70's, but it's shit.

> I'd also add that it means in addition to my taxes, I spend money at local businesses

good! but be sure you're actually going to local businesses and using their services. Do NOT use things like uber, instacart or door dash. While those companies give money to local vermonters, you're giving money to companies that operate in tax havens and their labor practices are dog shit.

Lastly - my problem is not with you or who you are. I am certain you're an upstanding citizen and probably a cool person. My problem is that the state made a system to import people here for financial gain while a lot of us are suffering. Natives like myself have NO incentives to stay in Vermont. I know I romanticize this a bit and call it my birth place, home state, and what ever, but this is where I grew up, this is where I have kids, this is where my family is. Other folks tell us natives that we're problematic for having an opinion on it - while we're being priced out of the market while living in what the real estate folks called "the most moved in state" during the pandemic. My family roots run pretty deep - but I am no mountain man, or redneck - just a guy that grew up in poverty and managed to get somewhere and now hitting more roadblocks now that I have the money to accomplish all the goals I set growing up. I've been told that nearly everything about my life, family and way of life here is wrong, and that I need to move out (not by you, but others).

at the end of the day - it's entitled flatlanders coming here that piss me off. A bunch of them came in on a free 7k ticket and got an immediate jump on home ownership or what not - while the rest of us are struggling to stay housed.

I hope that brought some clarity to this discussion without entirely coming off like an asshole.

> bias that all politicians are inherently "crooked,"

Well when we get to the parts about lobbying and all - it really paints a picture, but that's not the case here. In time there will be some lobbyist that will corrupt her and turn her into a DC pawn. Give it time.

well that sucks.

then again - I've never been a fan of this program - too many of us folks here have been gouged on housing (yes I know it's not just a vermont problem). Just seems wrong to give money to folks moving here that are doing remote work, I get they need tax money, but we could make more tax money on making an investment on new exports from the state rather than importing folks that are bringing money in from other places.

Bad money is bad money.

Sbf is a tool. He's going down!

could make you one!

I understand your grief - but you sound super entitled.

I guess the question is - what exactly would satisfy his critics?

I have no horse in the game, just curious what a pound of flesh in this situation looks like.

hepatitis

Weird the sub is private now...

Edit - it's not private. Rama blocked me lolololol.

Yep

such majesty

I think that you're thinking about HOA and forced neighborhoods. A suburb is just a street block of residential zoning. Then again my definition could be wrong. I'm not very educated.

I wish not to be in congress. Where I wish to be is in my garage making guitars for musicians who will make beautiful music with them.

i do not possess any of those traits.

keep going!

> Indian do you think there is an opinion forthcoming on the KC Chiefs?

no but this watered down native here can say - IDGAF about what sports teams call themselves. I want to see the good things happen for my cousins on the rez though. Shit is rough out that way.

> Ramadingdouchè

bro - that's like insensitivity to indian folk.

I've worked with H1B recruiters and staffers, some of them had names like Rama Krishna, Rama Grewal and so on.

> gender pronouns there guy.

Gender doesn't exist, it's performative. It's a societal construct. Also, dude is universal to all sexes / genders.

Paul Dame is still a better dude than you rama.