I spent a few days there once. It was quite nice, but you're right, not much to say after talking about the concrete cows.

I can see that. Hackman seems insensitive, and Hoffman seems like a wallflower.

Is that where they filmed Cars?

Did he keep the drugs or just take a cut?

Yes, but can your remote cock ring pair with your headset?

It's certainly not just one thing, which is why I mentioned the missing X chromosome.

Certainly. I'm just pointing out a big factor that is usually overlooked. The downvotes show you why.

Part of the reason is certainly the spare X chromosome, but I suspect a big factor is the social pressure for women to appear attractive. Attractiveness usually signals health, so a lot of the things we do to appear attractive have a side-effect of also making us healthier.

TL;DR Men could live longer too if they'd take better care of their health

No, it's the women who live longer. Pay attention.

Even the ones that got out largely became estranged having been scattered all over the planet. I hear that a lot of Jewish Americans are seriously discussing where to go next if fascism continue to rise here too.

Half my relatives didn't make it out

I want the 404 tree

Good luck holding onto happiness

But why deny gratification for the hope of some capricious fleeting? Why not do it in the expectation of something better?

Understandable

That helps, thanks.

And yes, the categories make sense, though I'd move mirth to the first one. And I agree the 3rd is the most important. Society over the individual. Normally that aligns with the 2nd, and it sucks to live when it doesn't.

Fashionable? That seems like an odd label. For myself I want to know why everyone seems to agree that happiness is the goal. When did that happen, and why don't we ever rethink it? I like happiness the same way I like sweets, and I don't think it's good for us. Happiness comes and goes unpredictably, so even when you catch some, you can't make it stay. For me there are much more important things than happiness. I prefer contentment. That's something you can work towards and hold. I find it much more satisfying than happiness.

In this context it reads as a direct attack, just FYI

Ad hominin attacks are fallacious too

No, this is the sort of situation that prompted the Jonathon Swift quote >“You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.”

I suppose it's fine to call such a shift a movement in one's morality.

Alright then it seems we're in agreement. "less death is better" is the moral position that doesn't yield to mathematics. Only the application of that position to particular situations can.

I think I disagree. I feel our moral disagreements aren't around ideas such as "less death is better", but around the details of "how", not "what". For example is it OK to kill animals for food? We can argue over when it's OK and when it's not, but I can't think of an example where someone came to the decision that less death is better or gave up such a belief.

> You might look to numbers not to justify your morality, which is a precise form of argument, but to investigate it.

Certainly, math is very useful in lots of moral situations, but I'm making a different claim which is that it can't be used to decide your moral foundation. If you feel that you've done that, then please tell me how it happened.

Can you give me an example of how you've changed your mind and adopted a different morality, or convinced someone else to change theirs? For example I see plenty of arguments of the form "If you believe killing is wrong, then..." I've never seen someone decide "Yes, I suppose killing is fine". I've only seen them decide that it's OK or not OK to kill in some specific situation.