i never drive but tbh i don't even use metro either. i walk or bike everywhere i need to go but that's only because the nearest metro stations to me are all farther away than most of the places i need or want to go. if metro had more extensive coverage of the city and ran more frequently i would use it regularly. fuck cars though.

i believe they built a completely separate track to bypass the station altogether so as to not spoil the surprise.

it wouldn't even be light rail. it would be the stupid H St street car.

trickle down housing

the only thing i dont like about it is i wouldnt be able to afford the penthouse.

no idea if that's true but thats about what i would've assumed, give or take -- so doesn't that kind of make the previous comment somewhat meaningless?

lol i still do the subway/bus transfer trick. been doing that for over 20 years.

can you even transfer it to a new card anymore? i haven't needed to in a while but someone told me they couldn't do it not too long ago. but they might have been trying to combine multiple cards.

might as well add in housing costs and other costs of living.

1000%. the subway is a service that makes the city a desirable place to live, work, and do business. it enables people to move freely and cheaply throughout the city throughout the day and night, visitors and citizens alike. the goal is not to make a direct profit off of these people for the city. the goal is to use public funds to benefit the public -- to spend tax dollars to improve the lives and livelihood of the citizenry and visitors to the city.

do you have a source that the fare used to cover the cost? because that seems incredibly unrealistic beyond maybe the first few years. the fare literally didn't change until after WWII.

stipulations to prevent companies from screwing the public?

imagine such a world...

used to be a whopping 20%. when they dropped it to 15% it was a big deal.

it's still pretty much a generic minimart but they have a wide selection of beer and the sandwich menu seems to be kind of a semi-permanent pop-up type of thing. i think it has more limited hours than the shop itself.

rodman's is the fucking best.

washington heights is awesome but it feels like it's on the cusp of ruin.

I think I see the problem. It must have been on fire recently.

shitty teenagers in [insert arbitrary boundary]? I couldn't have imagined such a terror would exist.

Like with anything it's a small but vocal percentage that are the shit heads.

Works every time

i mean... not... yet.

or the city you can afford

ah, the american dream

i kind of disagree. that line of thinking is how we got the shithole that is penn station today. if you aim for "just functional," you'll almost certainly end up with "less than functional."

i'm all for restoring penn to its former glory, but i kinda thought the extent to which that was ever realistically gonna happen was moynihan hall. plus... what's the point of moynihan hall, if penn is rebuilt in place of msg? i mean i'm all for more space, don't get me wrong, but msg + moynihan is a 4 block footprint. even for penn that seems like overkill, or at least, it seems like something the city wouldn't do. the biggest problem with penn is it's a fucking maze of mishmashed hallways, tunnels, and disparate waiting areas. if it were open and spacious like the original, moynihan would seem kind of redundant.

but now that i think about it, if they're gonna rebuild MSG between 6th and 7th, is there any opportunity to lean even further into it and expand access to the platforms all the way over to 6th ave where they could connect penn to NQRW/BDFM and PATH trains? that might actually be a really cool opportunity to really improve things -- or fuck midtown up even more spectacularly, lol.