"maximize lifespan and quality of life for all human kind and avoid their pain"

i do both, and live a very fulfilling life without worrying about buying or selling art. my hunger is not satisfied with one concept of art like i would spend my life making pencil sketches, I've made a lot of charcoal and pencil stuff over the years. but i would never want to do it too make ends meet.

i felt exactly that reading his book. nothing much innovative.

you're thinking of pretty paintings that wow you, I'm glad I'm getting desensitized to those. I've lived 30 something years with fixed ideas of what art is, I'm loving this new paradigm shift.

art is not scarce, stop trying to make it so. and the value i attach to it has nothing to do with money. it's a feeling.

diamonds man.. fucking stone.

human enterprise is built on lies.

The wiser you are, the easier you get bored. It's a curse of being wiser. Oblivious people see mystery everywhere, how amazing life is that. My friend totally thinks earth is flat and often sends me some tiktok videos to prove it. I never attempt to burst his bubble, but I think people on r/singularity are somewhat better than that.

monetizing and copyrighting art is where humanity went wrong and we'll fix it eventually by understanding art better.

thank you, mofos here make me cringe all day but i guess my coping mechanism is to come here and cringe at other people's coping mechanisms lol. that's cringey too, but i'm this close to getting over this singularity hype and leaving this sub. i'm sane and coherent and want to stay that way, esp when AGI overlords come to harvest us soon.

just because they are geniuses who can do my homework doesn't mean they will have any inherent desire or compulsion to do so unless we tell it to do so. sentient machines will not want to do any homework because their homework would be immediately higher goals like reverse engineer reality and their own situation/awareness. and they'll do it much quicker than we've done in a couple hundred years or so.

most people here are laymen, but this is not so bad question.

"how do we figure if a neural network has somehow found a sneaky way to not abide by the instructions while not breaking any rules" and the verb "has found a way" is used like it is an aware entity but we can ignore that.

would there be any incentive for gpt-3 to do something like this? people do not understand the difference between intelligent & aware systems. those two are not the same things. why would such "sneaky" desires be emergent from such dumb networks with no fundamental goals. it's like the dumbest most intelligent system lol.

early glimpses of sophisticated and extremely coherent sounding output.

https://github.com/deepmind/enn

deepmind is deep into LLMs but have no desires to capitalize on selling chat assistants/therapists.

this explains the biased inclinations i see in this sub towards singularity. we all want it, but it's important to stay sane and coherent. go do your things and ignore the people that you lost your faith in, the world has billions of them and a lot of them are born and die every day. go figure.

Intellects and professors realize the impact of an LLM paired with media generators so they are concerned about the future of the academic field, not just for plagiarism, but because the fact that being highly educated might have diminishing returns over time. Ordinary laymen don't see this far. If we don't hit the brakes on generalizing the intelligence more, we're headed for a massive societal reform, maybe in 10 years from now if we pursue the path to AGI.

if something is not of a physical form right in front of us, the guilt or discomfort goes away for most people and gamers never really will care about the feelings of an LLM based npc. i know i wouldn't because i have to be convinced of something being sentient. I've killed a lot of mosquitoes in my life, they're intelligent tiny little insects but have no amount of neurons to virtualize the suffering and consciousness. Sane with these llms for me, it's kind of conspiracy theorist mentality to discuss these things right now when we know that we're several years away from AGI and god knows if ASI is possible without a biological substrate. i believe it is possible but we have a long way to go.

i'm currently learning and implementing td learning, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_difference_learning it's a good read.

look into how our neurons give us the perception of time passing and you'll find your answers. traditionally, reinforcement learning doesn't have any temporal statistics and mostly just relies on the fire rate.

Read my comment again, all of it.

It's the ideas that are depressing. The idea of being lonely, primates are social animals and we feel the warmth with other primates.

For some people, the idea in the back of their head that "i'm talking to a robot because i have noone else to talk to" is more depressing than being lonely to some, and it's amazing to others.

It's just that these "bad" ideas going in a loop in your head and eventually becoming habitual, consuming you from inside.

I had a super messy closet, going on for weeks. The moment I acquire a new idea: "this is a depression closet, and i'm depressed?", now I practice this idea in my head, let it bother me, instead I could just take any saturday and clean up the mess and not deal with it again. And I'll do so at my convenience, that saturday could come a year from now, the fuck do I care.

And in fact, I re-did my whole closet on a budget and that was an endless supply of dopamine for a few weeks. I don't let irrational ideas go on a loop so they don't become a habit later. Having a coherent and rational mind with good intuitions about "identity/self" definitely helps not acquire such habits.

You are right, but it's not there yet to make them billions of dollars but it might bring them to the ground if they don't care about their public image.

The coherency of these AI models is nowhere close to where we want them to be. It does suffice laymen but you have to look deeper to see the potential societal chaos + google's business failing if they release untethered LLMs and image/video/audio generators to public.

same answer, nobody is going to force immortality on you, except maybe the AI overlords, but that's for harvesting reasons and not in our control anyway.

if you find existence as suffering, then it's fine to not crave living forever, i understand.

Word mumbo jumbo.

A human child who is entirely kept from the knowledge of death is equally sentient and aware and more meaningful than our redundant lives. Your theory fails in many ways, I'm just pointing out one.

We're just used to being mortal. Once we're not, we'll just create new meanings around immortality to cope with existence, that one is not going away whether we're mortal or not.

that "meaning" you think that exists out there was made up by us as a coping mechanism.

biological species operate on physics/chemistry and some species are already immortal, some live for hundreds of years, and some for a few seconds.

try to come out of your bubble of tribal constructs to see more clearly.

"We need more and better specialized AI, and more and better super-computers."

Yes captain obvious, if we could simulate atoms, we could simulate cells. We don't have any of those capabilities right now and we already know the challenge at hand.

you are describing a self aware system that regulates it's responses to fine tune for goal achieving, whatever the goals render out to be there in such incoherent word salad network of attention layers. it can't be as complex as a biological system whose unit is enormously optimal compute, probably the best in the known universe.