It would nonetheless be a huge mistake for the city to accept this framing. It would be expensive (bad for NYC taxpayers), it would create two tiers of employees, and it would cause remote workers to demand pay parity with in-person workers, ultimately making it even more expensive (even worse for taxpayers). The city should reject the idea that remote work is an employee benefit.

My firm and every other firm I know of pays remote workers the same as in-person workers. The idea that remote workers should earn less is ridiculous. If anything it’s a benefit to the employer, which saves on their commercial real estate footprint.

Gee who could have foreseen this.

Disagree.

About $1 million per toilet. And the structure itself costs only $185k. The rest is all NYC.

> The five Portland Loo toilets, made by an Oregon-based metal firm, cost roughly $185,000 each, according to a Parks Department spokesperson.

>But the overall budget to buy and install five Portland Loos, in one pilot location in each borough, starting as early as summer 2024, could reach as much as $5.3 million.

>And strict New York City building code restrictions on prefabricated construction have dragged out getting potties to parks, a Parks spokesperson acknowledged. A sales manager for Portland Loo’s manufacturer, Madden Fabrication, told THE CITY that securing approval in New York was more difficult than in any other location the company has worked in.

>“I built 180 of these, from Portland to Alaska to Miami, and I’ve never had this certification problem,” Evan Madden told THE CITY. “New York City has been the most difficult to have a permit approved for.”

> There were only 12,750 textiles employees in the US in 2021, of course there aren’t 150k just in Manhattan.

We also agree there aren’t 150,000 textile jobs in Manhattan today.

We can both agree that there are more garment industry jobs in the garment district than you expected.

It’s been a steady decline for a long time. I’ve read that at its peak (a long time ago), there were about 150,000 garment industry jobs in the neighborhood.

Doesn’t specific so I assume it means total.

3,000 jobs in the neighborhood, according to article

Jesus I didn’t need to see that.

I may be naive, but there is so little “manufacturing” left in the neighborhood, and the climate now is very different now than it was in the past, so I think they’ll ultimately allow more residential.

Garment District has a fair number of buildings that would be suitable for conversion into two-per-floor or floor-through units. Hope to see it happen. It’s a great location that just needs more residents.

sToP WHinING

That was quite cruel of me when I mocked the “420” in the username of a man who is obviously a very serious person worthy of respect.

https://reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/11dbqqj/_/ja85tpr/?context=1

Lol 420

> But obstacles facing Midtown are many. They include the need for legislation from Albany to relax strict rules for residential housing, rezoning to allow apartments in what are now commercial districts, a tax break if affordable units are required, and generally daunting economics.

>What’s more, even properties with many vacancies typically still have some office tenants in place. Ten-year leases are common.

>“Most office buildings are encumbered by existing office tenant leases and typically have to be emptied before being converted,” said Max Herzog, a specialist in financing conversions at the real estate firm JLL. “Deeper, bigger floor plates and other structural elements are often problems, there is a need for changes in the zoning and increased floor area ratios, and then there is also the financing.”

sToP WhininG, i hAVE No sYmpaThY!

I like midtown. Except for the junkies.

The only ones whining here are you (whining about landlords) and me (whining about you).

Whoa, a NYPost post without the obligatory auto-mod disclaimer.

Of course business owners run a risk of losing a lot of money. This is not an interesting statement.

Possibly true. It’s the only way I would have heard about it.

Whether you have sympathy is absolutely irrelevant.

Here comes another thread of nitwits who didn’t read the article and who have no curiosity about the details of residential conversion offering their irrelevant view that they don’t feel sorry for landlords.