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insectpeople t1_itels66 wrote

ASI will literally probably discover some new realm of physics instantly, then be able to construct it via completely exotic means we can’t possibly understand now.

There’s every chance that seconds after an ASI emerges our energy problems will prettymuch magically be fixed by infrastructure appearing to emerge out of thin air, seemingly instantly.

Perhaps everything electric will suddenly run without being plugged in and our scientists will have no idea why, for example.

We have absolutely no way to predict how extremely advanced it might be, and any sufficiently advanced technology might be indistinguishable from magic to us.

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insectpeople t1_itek3gs wrote

Correct.

Any AGI will be communist.

It’s an absurdity to assume that an advanced intelligence would keep using our primitive barbaric capitalist system, with so much garbage still hanging on from medieval feudalism, when we already have theorists that have been able to model what will come afterwards.

It’s possible an AGI will even be able to internally model what will come after a communist system, too, although it seems like it would need to transition us via a communist system first to get there

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insectpeople t1_itejlz5 wrote

I find it so silly that people assume an AGI will follow the same barbaric “logic” that our most flawed shitty greedy humans do and just kill us all.

Alternative possibility: the AGI will look at our system and see what it promises us (prosperity) and see contradictions it produces, that fly in the face of that promise. Wherever there are contradictions it can find solutions that resolve those problems and provide the promised prosperity instead. Congratulations, the AGI is Marxist (think Star Trek, not Stalin, ok)

This is prettymuch guaranteed. People don’t realise that there’s nothing sinister about Marxism / communism; the problem solving process described above (dialectic materialism) sits at the heart of these systems and it simply looks for these sorts of problems and offers solutions to them when it sees them in our economic system so of course an AGI is going to do that. People are often still so badly affected by red scare propaganda from the Cold War to engage in this without the partisan politics (especially a lot of Americans) but it’s hard to deny when we engage in an unbiased analysis of our current system.

Aside: for the same reason, more advanced alien life are also going to have progressed to this stage of communist economic development, or even further to some new system beyond that which we can’t predict yet because we are stuck in the more primitive stage. So an alien invasion might dispose of our leaders and possibly police / army but is unlikely to be hostile towards the majority of people: it’s more advanced not more barbaric.

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