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lord_pizzabird t1_iyf14km wrote

I don't mean to make this about politics, but I think it's also notable that they went on to elect a well-known television personality to office, when they finally reached the peak of their power.

It's a generation of people born and raised in the shadow of Vietnam, America's first televised war and raised in the era of cable tv. Their whole lives revolved from the start to finish around televisions.

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lord_pizzabird t1_iya5g7m wrote

I don't think you understand what Prestige means. It's not about ratings or spectacle, but farming industry awards to insinuate a premium brand.

Should point out as a sidenote, that Showtime's boxing promotions bring in pretty big numbers, often measuring in the hundreds of millions of dollars in PPV buys. (The record was $410 million for Mayweather vs Pacquiao that was a joint promotion with HBO and Showtime).

Now, all that being said they've obviously not reached the same levels of prestige as something like HBO, but that's irrelevant. Regardless of how well they perform, the entire point of showtime is that it's CBS's Premium network and longtime competitor to HBO.

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lord_pizzabird t1_iy8syws wrote

They sort of have done this already, but as a premium expansion within Paramount.

I think the issue is that Showtime has a long history of standing on it's own, with it's own revenue model. It's also Paramounts prestige machine. I think there's concerns over disrupting what the do too much, given how good they are at it.

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lord_pizzabird t1_ixkpzs3 wrote

That or an effort to help sustain the film industry till their big plans (007) start materializing.

I remember seeing reports recently that theaters are struggling, not due to low turnout as much as too few films for patrons to buy tickets for. If theaters start closing that's going to really jam up their plans.

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lord_pizzabird t1_iudpvl9 wrote

Germany was in massive debt after ww2, same with Japan. The difference was a semi-permanent occupation by allied forces. In both cases US forces are still there, in the form of military bases.

The lesson of ww2, learned from ww1 is that a country can’t just be left to their own devices post world war, but needs a long term nation building investment and occupation to enforce it.

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lord_pizzabird t1_iu4ug0j wrote

An interesting move, given that CNN has actually had some success with original series and films. Talking about Bourdain and their retrospective shows narrated by Tom Hanks, it seemed for a while like this was the only draw the network even had remaining.

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lord_pizzabird t1_iu1b4rn wrote

This is just a hunch, but I have a feeling Discover/warnermedia is monitoring the situation with Showtime and Paramount, to decide whether or not they'll do something similar with HBO.

What I mean by that is, Discovery + Warner content as part of a basic plan with HBO max as an additional package. Basically re-establishing the way HBO is distributed, to make it more like Cable.

In that scenario Hulu, Discovery, Prime, and Netflix essentially become the streaming equivalent of basic cable, each with their own premium network.

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