lululock
lululock OP t1_je163p2 wrote
Reply to comment by Spritzer2000 in Microsoft Surface Pro 4 battery pinout by lululock
I've found a picture of a BMS someone took appart.
The left one is from a Chinese copy but the right one is the original LG one. Looks like both cells would connect to it. Comments say that the original BMS has a temperature sensor and charging control and that's why some Chinese copies won't get recognized by the Surface.
I think I'm getting somewhere with my idea.
lululock OP t1_je1010x wrote
Reply to comment by Spritzer2000 in Microsoft Surface Pro 4 battery pinout by lululock
You're right... I guess I'll salvage the BMS from another dead battery which hasn't expanded yet. I'll ask a few repair places around. Maybe they could even strip out a BMS for me.
But then comes the part where I'll solder new cells to it. Do you think it will get the extra capacity of 18650 cells ?
lululock OP t1_je0wt7o wrote
Reply to comment by Spritzer2000 in Microsoft Surface Pro 4 battery pinout by lululock
The tablet is already disassembled, thanks. I already dealt with similar devices to not break stuff while attempting a repair. I've just never dealt with such a bloated battery.
The idea was to fix that inherent design flaw the Surface Pro 4 has : A massive part of its heatsink is covering the battery and transfers heat to it, damaging it the more the Surface is used.
If I replace the battery, it will do it again in a few years if not sooner due to lower quality cells.
Buying good quality 18650 and making 3D printed parts to fit them outside the casing will cost less than a replacement part from Ifixit...
I not only want to fix it, but I want it to last longer.
lululock OP t1_je0u634 wrote
Reply to comment by Spritzer2000 in Microsoft Surface Pro 4 battery pinout by lululock
The BMS seems to be located right between the cells. If I cut short each cell wires, there should be no short... But the cells doubled in thickness, I'm even afraid to remove them from the casing.
lululock OP t1_je0j663 wrote
Reply to comment by Spritzer2000 in Microsoft Surface Pro 4 battery pinout by lululock
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of...
Any way to rip the BMS from the old battery without setting it on fire ?
lululock OP t1_je1k5sw wrote
Reply to comment by thoraway97 in Microsoft Surface Pro 4 battery pinout by lululock
I planned to get a working BMS from (preferably) a non bloated battery to minimize puncture risks.
There's absolutely no insulation from the heatsink and the battery. Microsoft did put a huge chunk of the cooler on top of the battery (I strongly believe it has been done in propose). Nobody with a sane mind would do that but yet, Microsoft did it...
I think that I'll try to solder 18650 cells to the original BMS and see how it goes. If it does well, no need to reverse ingeneer it. If not... I guess I'll have to acquire some knowledge first to do it myself.