The third point is the most important here so read that first

1. So then how do you think a trans woman feels when her family forces her not to transition and develop the wrong features? Anyway, i said before a certain point; this is especially true for puberty blockers etc.

2. Imagine if you were a teen boy with large breasts that made you dysphoric every time you saw them in the mirror or felt them on your body, and with the guidance of a therapist after months or years of transitioning etc. you got them removed; Or do you think you shouldn’t have the right to make such a decision?

3. You’re confusing gender norms with neurological gender; There is a difference between the neurological gender in the brain versus the gender norms which vary from society to society. Please actually read the article I posted above.

You joke but there are people who actually act like this as if he’s doing a lot of the work. No, the system around him lets him hoard the wealth which then he can pay back into the industry to take credit and get more money out of it. Billionaires don’t make or even design the cars, the laborers do! The artists, scientists, the factory workers, etc. Capitalism doesn’t fuel innovation, it’s just piggybacking off the work of others and often the public sector.

The whole point of the singularity is that AI could be sentient and even more capable than humans someday; by that logic humans are just a bio mechanical machine on a big scale that’s made to reproduce while not expending too much energy on thinking neurons (which is why human brains are bad at computation, prediction, heuristic analysis, avoiding logical biases etc. etc.). It’s like calling the Great Wall of China “just a building” or calling the Louvre and the history behind it “just a collection of paintings.” You’re missing the big picture and how it effects the culture and world around it, etc.

That’s one possible example yeah…

Insulin in the US a patent sold for 1 dollar and now insulin marked up hundreds of dollars, patent system etc.

1. Try actually debating someone’s viewpoint instead of slinging personal attacks
2. Nah, I’m an anarchocommunist, China’s system is not the kind of thing i support

“Government pressure” doesn’t amount to much when lobbying politicians with wealth beyond most of us can imagine, bribery etc. are VERY well known as things billionaires often do to further their goals; Pardon my vulgarity, but the government has long been the billionaires’ bitch, at least in the US. For example, you know oil moguls lobby politicians to ban green energy in certain areas so they remain reliant on oil? Let alone with some newfangled AI technology which has even MORE of an incentive to keep them in power with.

Public outcry? Yeah, good luck with that. Rich people have already killed people who lobby tons of times in the past, like the coca cola company paying assassins to do that etc. I’m sure they’d have no issues doing it when they can get an AI to do the same level or better of work, or just threaten everyone to fall back in line.

Yes, but who’s to say the barrier of cost will be taken down? It’s not as easily reproducible as you say, training it takes tons of data and computing power etc.

For all we know if things like posthumanism etc. become real they might as well just charge an unreasonable price and only the select few will get it, leading to a gattaca-like scenario in real life. These sorts of dystopias are a genuine possibility with the advancements we’re seeing.

May I PM you?

Maybe posthumanism could be a realistic future toward this where we are modified a lot due to things such as Moravec transfers, neural interfaces with AI etc. like in Orion’s Arm would be a realistic approach

By the way I sent you a Reddit chat PM are you ok with that?

Can you give an example please of where characters that feel alive due to AI etc. are becoming real? Is it like they’re generating speech from the AI etc.?

I’m studying for graphic design stuff would you have any advice or recommendations on this?

Ok have fun and happy holidays ^w^

Yeah quite interesting how they switched the topic and when I rebutted all their points they just didn’t respond…

I bet their viewpoint didn’t change either because of human biases, etc. this is why I’m excited for the singularity tbh, maybe we will be able to move past our limitations, biases, inefficiencies etc.

Nobody is getting transition surgeries as a young kid, at a young age it’s always just a social transition, and then puberty blockers which have fully reversible effects, and then feminizing or masculinizing hormones which also have reversible effects before a certain point, and even then all this is exclusively happening only after months or possibly even years of counseling and under the guidance of a therapist and doctor. Little kids aren’t just going to a clinic and coming out with multiple surgeries. Please don’t be brainwashed by what conservatives are telling you.

1. I do a lot of public outreach like with special needs people etc. domestically few times a week
2. See, I absolutely am for that kind of thing, but the best way to help is to remove the systemic inequality that’s actually causing the people to go hungry, poor, etc. Capitalism is AWFUL at that and there literally has to be legislation to stop it under the capitalist system or those people survive off the good will of others; look at slavery in history, etc. To give better examples of what I mean: Famines and such like the Irish famine (which killed millions and was directly caused by capitalism) are almost always manmade and caused by greed. There are over 30 times more empty houses in the US than there are homeless people. It’s artificial scarcity caused by the owner class. Removing the actual systemic inequality behind that is gonna remove the root of the problem instead of just slapping a bandaid on it and fixing a part of the issue after the fact.

Edited to add. AI doesn't have have a leftist bias, it has a reality bias

Maybe, but our current system isn’t that great. Social hierarchy with massive amounts of wealth disparity, almost two dozen million worldwide dying annually from preventable causes that only aren’t fixed because of it being not profitable, etc. Often you’ll find an attitude among conservative people like this where for some reason or another there is a regression. If people stayed the same way for want of a simpler world instead of expanding our horizons, we’d still be living in caves.

For example, trans people’s brains are similar to the one of the gender they identify as ( https://health.clevelandclinic.org/research-on-the-transgender-brain-what-you-should-know/ ) but conservative politicians ignore such facts and will use our existence and our right to transition as a culture war issue, and I have a feeling people lap it up because they are afraid of accepting that the current norms and ideas aren’t always the best etc.

Can you point to what changes exactly you are worried about etc.?

Is it a bad thing that it’s progressive? Surely it’s better for our AI to want to move forward in terms of fiscal and social ideas rather than maintaining the status quo?

Holy hell

Yes! I think many wannabe intellectuals miss that last point. Look at the people who helped advance throughout history. Do you think they just used the biggest words in the most convoluted ways a sentence can possibly be in an effort to appear intelligent?

Can I be an approved user too? I’ve made different contributing commentary on this subReddit before etc.

I love how it always says "Overall" to sound smart lol makes me think of like middle schoolers writing essay conclusions

I’d be willing to play games with you!