"just change your job title to food and beverage director or something. then your application goes to the bottom of the pile. i know guys 20 years working in vegas without a license."

yes i know how it works. the union will have to negotiate for higher wages.

i mean maybe those people should ask for higher wages? i'm pretty sure the teachers and garbage men have a union, and there are plenty of unionized trades too.

i wonder when all the "give them the maximum sentence" people from yesterday are gonna show up.

i guess not man. every 16 year old in the city who commits a crime is doing it for pure violence and malice.

there is also a good rack at 1725 (1735?) market street which is covered but not inside.

philadelphia phascists gotta be some of the most messed up...the birthplace of the bill of rights.

hahah yeah fuck the 6th amendment! In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

also, fuck my first amendment too, right? you should head down to 5th and chestnut and check out the building there, it is full of these old documents.

> Here’s how it goes after working with the IRS over a hundred times.. the IRS asks for a simple explanation, an amendment and even offers payment plans. Idk where people get these grand delusions that the IRS are impossible to work with and will smack felonies on you for the smallest things. They’re way more cooperative than the police.

this is exactly my point- people want to punish the fuck out of teens who make mistakes, but their own mistakes are "no big deal". but why are they willing to come down so hard on other people? for what reasons do people think their own mistakes are minor and can be negotiated, but when a child makes a mistake, they deserve to get punished as severely as an adult?

the point i'm making isn't about the IRS- the point i'm making is people feel so comfortable throwing the book at other people, but if someone tries to throw the book back, then we should really be looking at extenuating circumstances, exceptions to the rules, "a simple explanation".

i mean i dont have kids either. but kids do stupid stuff, you really want to hold the parents responsible for everything they do? or just the egregious shit like robbing gun stores and stealing cars?

because we as a society have decided 16 year olds are not full adults, so they're not held to the full consequences of their actions the way adults are.

if it is a mistake then fine. how about you paid the baby sitter over $600 this year without a W9? maybe you used the company card to fill your tank before going on vacation?

you're sitting here telling me 16 year old kids should go to jail for grand theft auto for 7 years...okay- are we going to start requesting the maximum penalty for all law breakers all the time? because everybody is fine with maximum sentencing until they make a mistake.

lol no- we're making equal equivalancies. OP said they should get max time for their crimes. i'm just trying to show you giving everyone the maximum might come back to bite them.

i agree. the gun store robbery shit is bad, but you think they're keeping the guns?

lol do you have kids?

have you ever considered they're broke, hungry, bored, abused?

16 year olds are kids. there is a reason we don't let them do adult shit, because they don't have fully developed brains. you want to let them drink, buy weed, drive cars, buy guns, vote, and join the army? fine, they're adults at 16.

you want to prohibit them from all that shit but then try them as adults because your shitty kia got stolen and the cops aren't doing shit to protect you from it, but you wont stand up to the cops, so you want to lock up a 16 year old? not ok.

i was actually referring to stealing cars in this case. but more broadly to giving out the maximum penalty for everything. like some people are gonna get leeway, understanding, exception to the rule, while some 16 year old kid is gonna get locked up for 7 years for a fucking kia.

the gun thing is a serious issue, and whoever is buying or inducing these kids into this needs to really be punished for sure.

telling me it isn't rocket science is an insult as well. and yeah, since i dont have time to run my own experiment, i absolutely have to criticize the biased source.

he even writes "contrary to prevailing wisdom" or some such...meaning there are many studies refuting his idea.

also, how or to whom is PR for the FOP an insult?

i can't charge the sheriff's department.

lol you just made my point for me. thank you for understanding.

ah ok- you tell me it isn't rocket science that is fine, but me telling you to read a book hurts your feelings.

then, you link me a blog post written by a previous DA that now works at the manhattan institute, a conservative lobbying group most famous for promoting the "broken windows" ideology, that essentially removed 4th amendment rights from anyone police didn't like. they're also funded by the koch brothers, who are infamous for their family ties to nazi germany, soviet russia, reducing worker's rights, and disregard for environmental protections.

i can't tell if you actually believe this stuff, or you're just doing some kind of PR for the FOP.

as i said to somebody else, if you make a mistake on your taxes the maximum penalty is $100,000 fine and 5 years in prison.

i'd also like to point out the sheriff's department stole two guns. let me know when you want them tried as adults too.

ok. you ever make a mistake on your taxes? felony tax evasion $100,000 penalty and 5 years in jail.

i'm sure you don't mind taking your chances when it is other people getting locked up, but it probably seems a little different for you huh?

lol i was waiting to see some criminology statistics and shit. your compelling argument is "its not rocket science."

read a fucking book.