Yeah if you live in the city it may not be the way but as far as it polluting keep in mind that modern wood stoves burn cleaner and heating with wood is considered carbon neutral, in theory anyway. https://www.chimneysolutions.com/blog/ecofriendly-wood-burning/ Still it is more labor intensive. So is walking or jogging over automobile but people still pay money to run on a treadmill. Crazy.

Works great till your water freezes up. Winter gets longer at that point.

Yeah I hear they work great until the power goes off during a blizzard. Wood is the way.

I just learned about the off rode thing, duh.

Yeah but doesn’t diesel meant for vehicles have an extra tax on it that makes it more expensive? Ok I guess in a pinch but you’d wind up spending more, no?

Do you think the tower in the map is the same location as the current tower or is it farther back?

There is a tower farther back though. I wonder what that was?

Route 108.

They sound a little like a dump truck backing up.

If anything Vermonters might be proud that the dirt bag corporation in Parsippany thought highly enough about the real stuff to try to steal the labeling. I’m pretty sure no one believes that crap is real maple syrup. And since one good turn deserves another I thought maybe Vermont could appropriate something only found in NJ but I couldn’t think of anything worthy.

Isn’t that actually the same as selling it though?

As I understand it the only legal way to buy venison is to buy farm raised venison which is a slightly different type of deer.

What’s a thermostat?

Hey, you aren’t from Satan’s Kingdom, are ya?

Mail carrier? I pick up my mail at the post office.

I have 10 acres of hardwoods that I bought 30 years ago. I’ve cut firewood on it every year. Usually between 4 to 6 cords. I’ve also logged off the softwood twice in that time. There is now much more wood on that land than when I started. As far as it being sustainable and carbon neutral here is an article about this. https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/11/09/climate-curious-is-burning-wood-for-heat-carbon-neutral. In the late 1800s Vermont was largely deforested because of over harvesting. Much of the forest was simply burned down to make pasture for livestock. Wasted, in other words. Now the opposite is true. I agree that if everyone used wood to heat with and didn’t manage the forest properly then it would become deforested. I never said everyone should burn wood but only that for me it makes sense. Most people around me burn wood for part of their heat and the forest keeps growing. Many people who don’t burn wood do so because it is labor intensive. I get that, believe me. The good thing is the amount of labor required to cut a cord of wood stays the same. Price of other fuels fluctuates wildly and sends huge amounts of money into the hands of utility conglomerates and in some cases foreign governments that do not have our best interests at heart. I prefer to not give my money to the Saudi Arabians or Shell oil if I don’t have to. If you live in areas that are not forested than burning wood makes less sense.

From what I understand the power I buy comes mostly from hydro in Canada.

Not for me personally because I have acres of hardwood trees I can cut. For those that don’t have this I agree.

I agree which is why I don’t have one but I suppose if most people used them the price would come down and it would reduce the use of other fuels like NG so that the supposed shortage of NG wouldn’t be an issue. I seriously looked into a heat pump to heat during the “shoulder” seasons but like you said, the high initial cost is tough to swallow. As it is I don’t think there is any shortage of NG. Just scare mongering. I’m reluctant to electrify everything. I’d rather have more control of what I need. I don’t know how there won’t be a shortage of electricity if cars all go electric. I have wood available or can buy it locally so I primarily use that but I also use propane and electric when I have to. I feel sorry for city people who don’t have access to alternative fuels. They are at the mercy of large industry.

Well the post was talking about natural gas, not oil. Plus I believe most people would install electric heat pumps. Most of the electric in Vermont comes from hydro in Canada. No shortage of that. I wish I had natural gas where I am. I’d use it but I wouldn’t rely on just one fuel.

No problem here. I heat with wood.

Way over engineered.

I’m wondering what the annual take in dollars is. Fines, tow truck, lotta bucks.

What percent of the Vermont population rents their home? Or, put another way, what percent of Vermonters don’t own their home? In a town like Burlington most people rent. In a town like Shelburne most people own. Owning your home is the key to affordability. Renting your home makes you subject to exploitation. Aside from students, who should be housed by the school they are attending, Not earning enough to own your home is the problem.

Right. The energy and food sectors are exempt when figuring the National inflation rate. Funny how those industries are excluded. Petroleum and industrial agribusiness. Who needs gas and food anyway, sheesh!