Worth noting that "prosciutto" literally just means "ham."

Certainly many places have policies to not use stuff that's fallen on the floor. That's more laziness than anything else though. And sure, there may be quality issues that keep you from using something. It remains true that produce can be safely consumed after falling on the floor.

If your floor is so greasy that you can't wash a piece of produce that fell on it then your floor is the problem. Grease can be washed off though.

If someone thinks that produce can not be made safe by washing that is profoundly stupid. Don't defend that idiocy. Just mind bogglingly stupid.

Not sure what drug use has to do with anything though. Are you saying it's justifiable that people believe stupid things because they use drugs?

They're certainly different, but not better or worse. You do have to wash stuff that falls on the ground, just as you have to wash stuff that comes out of the ground.

No. Not by a million miles. Not by a million billion trillion miles.

Kitchen floors are cleaned. Fields are not. Fields very literally can not be cleaned (because then it wouldn't be soil anymore).

My favorite /r/kitchenconfidential moment was when the sub mocked me for suggesting that produce that fell on the floor could be washed and used safely. You know, produce. That stuff that literally grows out of the ground, which I can assure people is quite dirty.

Friendly reminder for folks that just because people work in kitchens doesn't mean they know jack about food safety. Sometimes I see people suggest that folks should ask food safety questions in that sub. You should not. Very definitely should not.

So, some important context. Unlike the EU and other modern nations, the US sets rates above which regulatory action must be taken. Regulatory action may still be taken below those limits depending on the circumstances. Most places have no line above which action must be taken. This is the US being more strict than normal, not less strict.

Contaminants are a part of life. "No contaminants" is not a real option. Inspectors in the US and elsewhere look at the process and determine if appropriate controls are in place. If they're not they may take action, regardless of the amount of contaminants. This is how most nations work. The US is different because we require action when above a said amount.

Big thing to remember is that it isn't "you can have up to this much without regulatory action." It's "you must control for contamination and we'll consider context for deciding what's acceptable unless it rises above the max and then we have to take action."

This is all speculation. Just perhaps the most plausible explanation. There's literally no evidence of river going seals up there. Though that doesn't at all mean it didn't happen. Finding a river going ancestor somewhere would change things, but the fossil record can be really cruel sometimes.

If they came from the West this problem doesn't exist, because that would be a voyage of shorter rivers between larger bodies of water.

There's a good YouTube video on this. Can't recall if it's PBS or Moth Light Media or someone else, but details the various theories.

It's pretty much a wholely different environment. Totally plausible for seals to travel short distances through rivers, but at that length it's almost certainly a multi-generational migration. Meaning whole generations were born in and died in rivers. That's a hell of a rapid adaption from being arctic sea-dwellers.

India is more complicated than that. The current nationalism they're experiencing is a historical anomaly. For most of the area's history they've been a hotbed of diversity and even celebrated their diversity. Overall the region is one of the world's shining examples of people of different beliefs and ways of life working together for mutual cooperation. Of course the British threw a giant monkey wrench into the whole thing by splitting the region into religious regions, and that has for sure caused a lot of conflict, but even then the conflict was more about nationalism than religion. It's the last couple decades where we've seen nationalism rise up, and even explicitly Hindu nationalism.

Point being there's still a strong foundation of valuing diversity and inclusion. For sure they're under fire from the modern political movement, but that foundation doesn't just disappear overnight.

I'm speaking from memory here, so may have the details wrong, but if I am remembering correctly they haven't been there that long. It would be easier to explain if they had been around before the last ice age, because that would make the northern river route more plausible, but the timing doesn't add up. If they were a bit older than even that the western route would be more plausible, as those waterways were yet greater. But the timing doesn't add up, and they seem to have arrived after those easy routes were dried up or frozen.

Yah. Like I say, that's a long ways to go, especially since those rivers stay frozen for much of the way. As far as I know, there aren't seals that do well in rivers, and it's rather unlikely that the lake was populated by individuals making the entire journey themselves.

The other major theory is they came from the West, plausible because the Caspian was far far larger, as was the... Um... The sea that Ukraine borders. Whatever that one's called.

There's a loooooooot of land to travel.

Check it out on google maps. Note that the way the watersheds work the most viable connection to the ocean is in the north.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lake+Baikal/@57.4447144,97.8699136,4z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x5dab7dedcf8dd873:0xf2489412c5853349!8m2!3d53.5587003!4d108.1649965

There are seals there and the fun part is figuring out how they got there. IIRC going upriver from the arctic is the most popular theory, but that's a long long way to go in unfriendly environments. Cute little puggy seals too.

"Unjust killing" works fine in all cases.

It can be, but in this case replace "murder" with "unjust killing" and that doesn't change anything. The emotional heft comes from what's being described, not how it is being described.

You're not wrong, but this is pretty pedantic. The person to replied to just used the wrong word.

Just do all the Pomplemoose stuff. If you just want one do Sweet Dreams / Seven Nation Army, but just check out all of them. Some are stronger than others but all are fun. You may have to spell the band name correctly, and note that it's not spelled like a French grapefruit. Close though.

http://hipsterhitler.com/

Got one you probably won't hear elsewhere. The Entrance Band. Guitar based I guess psychedelic rock? At one time Thurston Moore called him the best guitarist of a generation, so that's pretty good praise.

I'd suggest Wandering Stranger and Prayer of Death to start with.

Fun bonus fact: his longtime collaborator Paz is now an official member of the Pixies.

Under The Red Sky is not only the worst Dylan album, it's a solid contender for worst album overall. It's ostensibly an album for kids, but that doesn't really help much. Still awful everything.

Love Neko Case but her Honolulu song on The Worse Things Get is really really bad.

Love Tom Waits, but Road to Peace feels like it was based on Reddit comments.

Or it kills you dead, if you are.

It's going to be substantially higher risk when sliced at a store instead of a processing facility. Any USDA inspected facility must be taking many actions to combat listeria. There's oodles of environmental and product testing. Strict sanitation through the use of "clean rooms." None of that happens at a grocer, and honestly most don't even come especially close to meeting the much more permissive local codes.

>Yes. You're being unreasonable because you're assuming America has a greater influence on European cuisine than other European countries, which is crazy.

Nope. I did not assume that. I've even explicitly stated otherwise by pointing out that there is British cultural imperialism too. Not as powerful as the American (now) because it's about wealth and America has the most wealth. Worth noting at one time in history is was the Italians who were the dominant global power and hence the cultural imperialists. But in 2022 it's the US.

I have also talked about other ways that food culture has bounced around. In no way whatsoever have I suggested that the US is the only nation that impacts others. You are making that up.

Again, this isn't some blind "this was popular here so it must be popular there because of here." The timing is the point. It would be a stupid crazy coincidence if Nduja just happened to get popular throughout Italy just after it got popular in the US. A coincidence is not a reasonable conclusion. Regardless, the circumstance at minimum make my conclusion plausible.

There's also a ton of history of this happening. The organization Slow Food literally exists to oppose American cultural imperialism. But folks here think it doesn't exist? Come on.

Where did McDonald's come from? Are burgers and fries an inherently Italian food?

Come on. This is insane.

So you don't think that economic forces exist that make businesses tend to adjust to meet the need of their clientele? I'm entirely wrong about that? It's "completely ignorant?"

Give me a break. You people are gaslighting me. Pretending McDonald's doesn't exist. Pretending you can't get burgers and fries in Italy. This is ridiculous. Head deeply deeply buried in sand.

The whole Slow Food movement very literally exists to counter the American presence. A massive movement with people all over the world, founded in Italy to oppose what you say is "completely ignorant." Right.

But no. I'm sure American cultural imperialism is entirely a figment of my imagination. That must be it.