overlordpotatoe

overlordpotatoe t1_ix1pgto wrote

Reply to comment by blueSGL in 2023 predictions by ryusan8989

I guess we can't account of things other people are working on behind the scenes. GPT4 should be pretty big, but of course there's no guarantee another company hasn't been quietly working on something even better.

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overlordpotatoe t1_iwos4hw wrote

Yup. That's the truth of it. A bunch of very smart people have vague and often conflicting guesses. We might have guesses of our own, but we, a bunch of internet dumbasses, should never fool ourselves into thinking that we know.

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overlordpotatoe t1_iwiemna wrote

That's basically where I end up with all these things. Why worry about a specific potential outcome when there are so many competing possibilities, and probably many more beyond our imagination? The other one is how with an aging population and low birth rates we may have massive worker shortages... but also with the rise of automation, we may have massive unemployment. For some reason you never see anyone proposing that perhaps it will actually work out okay with those two things balancing one another out. I mean there is certainly no guarantee of that, but can't we for once have a little bit of optimism for the future?

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overlordpotatoe t1_iw5bfcc wrote

I think, as with a lot of new technologies, following years will upstage this year's progress so that in retrospect this year in particular feels less significant. Like the early days of the internet. The internet itself has been a major foundational technology, but most people probably don't remember the first year it was introduced as a time of great significance relative to what it became in the following years. If in several years time AI has revolutionised medical science and we all have AI assistants with humanlike intelligence, coding is obsolete and anyone can make a game just by telling the AI what to do, etc, most people will probably barely remember the days when people who playing around with basic image generators. Even now, the image generators I was using months ago that couldn't manage humans at all feel like a distant memory compared to what I can do now.

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overlordpotatoe t1_iubsgko wrote

It's a cost/benefit thing. There's no benefit to a teen smoking, drinking alcohol, gambling, etc. and no professionals trained to assess which teens are and aren't mature enough to make decisions about those things. This would be better compared to other medical treatments than to things that have no benefit other than personal enjoyment and no professional oversight. Teenagers are often allowed input on their medical treatment.

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overlordpotatoe t1_iu1ky18 wrote

I don't think it'll be a huge issue if there are enough workers and it's just a matter of there not being enough with the proper qualifications in a particular field. There are many things you can do to encourage people towards certain jobs that we mostly just don't want to invest in. Make tuition and housing free for anyone in that course as long as they're passing their classes and guarantee them a good job afterwards. We need to be willing to invest in the kind of workers we have shortages of.

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overlordpotatoe t1_iu1jlf8 wrote

See I always see this, but I also see that we're going to have mass unemployment due to AI replacing workers. Which is it? Of course many people would have to change what kind of work they do, but you can't have both catastrophic unemployment and a catastrophic worker shortage.

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overlordpotatoe t1_itsl2w4 wrote

Honestly, I think this will be something that slows things down substantially. Think of how slow some businesses have been to digitalise and automate their systems in ways that have been possible for a decade or more for no real reason except that people are resistant to change.

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overlordpotatoe t1_itfwdrd wrote

Perhaps the question is how good a movie would have to be for us to consider the poll question satisfied. We're unlikely to see AI make movies that are coherent and consistent from start to finish any time soon, but we'll probably be at the point where one could spit out a confusing fever dream of chaos pretty soon.

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overlordpotatoe t1_itezwtk wrote

You might be right about that. A lot of new things have been introduced in 2022, and those things will continue to be improved, but of course that doesn't make waves that are as big as the original introduction of those things. But, hey, at the beginning of 2022 I had no idea all this image generation stuff was on the way, so who knows. Sometimes new things just come out of nowhere. Other times, we're waiting on them for decades and progress seems glacial.

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overlordpotatoe t1_it6qvrr wrote

It makes me sad that we'll fight for humans to do tedious, pointless work just so that people have jobs. That increased productivity doesn't necessarily translate to improved quality of life for all.

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overlordpotatoe t1_isqhwyc wrote

Yup. AI art is fun and decently good, but currently it's hard enough to get anything usable out of it when you're using it purely for hobby purposes. It's not up to professional standards. It's getting better fast, but I think some of the hurdles ahead of it are bigger problems that won't be resolved just by doing what's being done now but a little better.

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overlordpotatoe t1_isqhdnp wrote

Yeah, that's true. If it starts hitting your industry, it'll be hitting a ton of other things at the same time. If it's just you who's out of a job, that's your problem. If it's half the country, it's an issue that will have to be addressed in some way through government policy. Who knows if they'll do a good job of that, but you worrying about it now won't help anything.

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