You are writing from a position of ignorance. Clearly. The system is very safe, you have to be a complete moron of a driver not to see and hear the clear warnings and messages on the dashboard explaining what they system is doing, and it's very clear that you are not meant to use the system unsupervised.

You aren't making a data driven decision about what is safe, you are taking some vague descriptions and drawing blanket conclusions. You are looking at public statements and not what is clearly communicated to actual drivers.

In short, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

And while all of those things are no-nos, they aren't corporation-ending no-nos. That people seem to think if a company is ever caught doing anything illegal, it will be shut down is very silly.

It's amazing how people throw logic out the window just b/c hate LOL

You seem to be focusing on the fact that something is illegal rather than the impact it will have. Whatever, I don't give a shit what your opinion is, it's an empirical question that will be answered by the DOJ and the courts. When it is, and Tesla is given a slap on the wrist, I will remember how stupid this conversation was, and how you were wrong. Until then I don't give a shit about your opinion.

The creeping is on purpose and necessary due to side cameras being pretty far back (on pillars). Don't know why they didn't have side view cams above the front wheels, seems like that would have made things much easier.

But the turning thing where the computer can't decide exactly what to do and sort of waffles is very weird. My car can take the same turn, on the same road, on the same day, two very different ways.

My dude, driving anything more than a basic vehicle doesn't make much economic sense at all, so we are starting from a point of gratuitous spend on "this is a cool tech car that's also very comfy and I feel like I'm in the future whenever I get in".

I'll take it a step further: I don't actually see much value in FSD. What they have that already works on the highways is probably good enough. I didn't pay 15K for it (the price has gone up) but you are right it's probably not worth it. I bought mine used and the only model available at the time had FSD so... I used that as my excuse :)

But my Tesla has actually grown in value since I bought it. I could sell for almost 30K more after almost two years.

Mostly politics I guess... is that politician or pundit lying because he believes what he's saying? Or are they just an asshole?

No, because in Enron's case they were destroying widespread value through their extremely illegal actions. Tesla will get a slap on the wrist and told not to advertise in certain ways. JFC this isn't complicated.

Enron and Tesla are nothing alike. If you think they are then you are missing the plot entirely.

Just had FSD delivered to my car last week. It's freaky.

The only times I've had to disable it have been when I didn't want to annoy other drivers on the road, as it takes weird turns and slows down or creeps forward slowly, etc...

But otherwise it hasn't tried to kill me yet, and I've seen it navigate some nasty intersections and heavy traffic. It also disabled itself when the sun was low and shining right on the windshield.

So it's actually crazy good at what it does, is actually pretty damn safe (slows way down for pedestrians, etc...), but I don't think it will ever be 100%, at least as far as inclement weather and (apparently) the wrong kind of sunshine are concerned. My vehicle will never be a robo taxi LOL.

All that said, they are brilliant in getting their customers to beta test and contribute to their self-driving AI. I feel like I'm doing Tesla a service by supervising it's AI, but I also don't mind 'cause the tech is just amazing to watch.

Fat Chance. They will get past this. Tesla isn't going anywhere. The US gov isn't going to destroy that much shareholder value over a few lives. This is America.

I dunno, seems hard to know, but I'm not exactly following the guy around listening to everything he says.

I've been playing "Stupid, or Asshole?" for a very long time now and my conclusion is that it's usually both LOL.

TLDR:

Some people mistake contrarianism for critical thinking. Aaron Rogers is one of them.

That's correct, but in OP's case they are referring to Caremark, which is a Pharmacy Benefits Manager (aka, insurance for drugs) and owned by CVS for a while now.