plummbob

plummbob t1_iudyxsn wrote

>Tons of inventory is new construction which is typically the pricier end of the spectrum as it's more profitable for builders

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and its decidedly unprofitable to build low-end stuff given the land use rules here. Kinda hard to justify building a starter home when the lot size is massive and you can only build 1 house. The land price alone puts you out of range of an 'affordable house'

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plummbob t1_itzeiq3 wrote

>But those “people” who are willing to pay arent people actually from Richmond

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nativism is gross.

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>There’s clearly been a huge onset of gentrification fueled by greed and opportunity in the last few years

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people want to live near urban amenities. the city makes it hard to build housing. so the price goes up. moralizing about greed is stupid because even if people were super altruistic, the price would still go up by the same amount because people would still be bidding the rents.

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>and when that isn’t matched with meaningful improvements to the life of the people that actually live in the area it’s affecting, it should be noted as an issue.

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of course its an issue. we have this huge influx in investment, but without a corresponding output in housing. and its not because we lack a supply of wood, copper, drywall and concrete.

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>Anyone that’s lived in Richmond a meaningful amount of time i.e 4+ years can see what’s happening to the city

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been here about a decade. houses in my neighborhood have nearly doubled in price, but the city has kept the supply of homes capped at the same amount since its inception even though everybody has enough space to build 3 houses per lot, or a 4plex in every backyard, or each lot is big enough for townhome/shotgun style, or literally anything in the spectrum of the missing middle.

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the problem is zoning. there is no reason why my neighborhood should have supply of housing fixed by policy when the prices are telling people to build.

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plummbob t1_ityxxyl wrote

That's because rental prices are based on people's willingness to pay, not specifically tied to any given wage. Hell, if anything real income would fall hard if rva actually had really good sxhools, roads, etc.

Bad schools and shit infrastructure put downward pressure on rents. Good schools and public amenities raise rental prices.

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plummbob t1_ityx9g0 wrote

>here's a obviously predictable consequence of the housing shortage >let's legalize more housing to fix the shortage, and by extension the other problem >downvoted to oblivion

Fun fact, home apartments, communal living or dorm style apartments or 4plexes are illegal to build in most of the city.

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plummbob t1_itv876z wrote

Entry of new is the solution to any kind of price fixing. Like, if a subset of the market sets their price above the equilibrium price, then of course homes will get built because the inputs to housing construction have not changed. Price fixing literally only works if there are large barriers to entry, and for housing, the only actual barrier is zoning (you could build a code-compliant home entirely from stuff bought at big box store).

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Buts it not even that -- its that these firms are able to raise prices because they were underestimating people's willingness to pay. So that means that upzoning (ie legalizing housing more broadly) would be even more effective than we would expect because it means there is a larger gap between the cost of building and demand (in other words, the zoning tax/deadweight loss is bigger than we think).

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The city legalizes housing on the extremes, but little is done for starter size homes. By way of example, prices in my neighborhood have grown but the supply hasn't despite an abundance of lot space (approx 3x the space consumed by housing). And its not because its impossible to build 700sqft homes due to lack of supplies/labor. Its because the city fixed the quantity of housing.

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I just find it baffling that the "just legalize more housing" as a solution to a housing shortage is the most controversial take.

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plummbob t1_ituog0y wrote

> barred from further collusion resulting in a more competitive rental market in which landlords have to lower prices to be competitive.

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rents are set by the marginal renter. so if that renter has a high willingness-to-pay, existing landlords have no incentive to lower prices.

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and because its hard to build in the city, and demand is ever increasing, renters will face higher and higher prices.

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