policemenconnoisseur

policemenconnoisseur t1_iyevut2 wrote

Without wanting to go deeper into our disagreement, I disagree with you and you with me, I found a fun list I'd like to share with you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insult_of_officials_and_the_state

and an interesting one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insult_(legal)

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policemenconnoisseur t1_iyenhqp wrote

I get what you say. An people do insult here as well. It's just good to know that you have the right to sue and have the law on your side if you do so. It's not like insulting is something which makes freedom of speech a good thing. Freedom of speech is about having the permission to say a thought which opposes the mainstream without fearing to get beaten down by the police or thrown into jail.

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policemenconnoisseur t1_iyd6233 wrote

No. You can have your opinion. But every person has a right to dignity which is held very high. And insults are an attack on the dignity.

Germany has some odd but sensible laws. For example escaping a prison is not a crime because the natural urge for freedom is intrinsic to every human.

The case where I said that your dad can insult you or you your dad or brother is also an interesting thing. The law specifies that the sphere of the family is a dignity-free zone, therefore insults are allowed. This is done to ensure that a trustworthy environment is created, where family members can express their opinion without having the fear of getting sued. This is limited to insults and even this is limited, for example mobbing is not allowed.

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policemenconnoisseur t1_irty3mg wrote

Sure, but consider how complicated that ordinary matter is. You could go down to the mitochondria and think about the existence of life at that level, since it's absurdly complex and crazy what is happening there. Silicon doesn't have the tiniest fraction of that complexity.

I believe that it takes a certain arrangement of matter to create, or to host, or to communicate with what concience is, and that cells do have that capability, but chips are far away from that.

Unless you argue that it is some kind of resonance which enables an universe of consciousness to sync/tune in with this reality or universe in order to observe it and be able to interact with it, and that biology managed to build this "tuner" through certain cells and possibly brain wave resonances, which maybe could be replicated by silicon.

It could be possible that AI could discover our conscience for us and then try to implement it in its own hardware. But that would be like it is now discovering new mathematics without having consciousness.

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policemenconnoisseur t1_irr9c66 wrote

Visuals? Touch?

It doesn't take any of these. Just having conversations which make you grow as a person will start creating an attachment to an AI, to the point where you will make jokes together and sigh and make you think that you wholesomely like this communication partner.

But I really couldn't imagine getting it more personal than this. I'd consider myself to be mentally disturbed if it would.

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