It's not considered surrendering if you are pulled over and follow commands from the get go. You know keep your hands on the wheel until instructed to give ID instead of running away, things your parents teach you. Surrendering infers you already started running. I am saying don't start running which is not something I see when we have these types of shootings.

the problem with that is then the gangs and other bad actors will take advantage of things more, there needs to be a balance

or not running and staying in your car and following directions