“These people drink alcohol, likely for a reason”

Uh, they drink alcohol for the same reason everyone else’s drinks it. Cause it’s a drug.

It’s hotter on average given the extra time.

Uh, in summary I was saying that Good and evil being subjective is fine. But resorting to basing your decisions off of what other people want is useless.

So we basically agreed.

That line of thought is still useless. Because it basically means that you should pander your actions to the masses. And we all know how stupid a mass of people can be. So living to please them is a very flawed and biased view.

Success is different for everyone. Don’t need to make a ton of money to be “successful”.

> buy outright and then rent back to us for the mortgage plus cost plus expenses and most importantly profit.

Saying that you pay more because someone else makes a business out of it is like saying that walmart makes more money cause it buys stuff in bulk then sells it to you at an increased price. Thats not really an argument but more like a method of making money.

>Aside from the loss of paying rent

But when you pay rent, you don't have to pay for repairs and maintenance. Heck, sometimes the utilities are included into that rent. Much cheaper than spending $20,000 on a new roof. Or paying $9,000 in taxes per year.

>we also lose in higher interest and insurance rates over those who can make larger down payment

The interest rates are based upon a system which is doing a person a favor. By loaning them money. It's not "Poor people pay more for a house", its more like "The more money you borrow, the more interest you'll have to pay". It doesn't matter whether they're poor or rich, the more money they borrow the more interest and higher rates they'll have to deal with.

Btw, a poor person can still get great rates if they have good credit.

People ARE trying to make things better. Better for themselves mostly.

Could you explain how poor people are paying more for housing compared to someone who buys a house?

I haven’t heard of that. Source?

But even if he did use steroids, that doesn’t make his quote false. If Hitler said “2+2=4”, it doesn’t make that statement false just because he was a horrific person.

That quote doesn't claim "they didn't want it bad enough". It states that if you give up early on because things are difficult or you don't see progress, you might never see success.

Working diligently and intelligently towards your goal doesn't make your success rate 100%, it makes your success rate >0%. But if you give up then your chance of success is 0%.