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t0slink t1_jdlhf3s wrote

I wish you were right, but people are calling for investment in AGI to cease altogether:

> There is no way for humans to adapt for alien intelligence. The idea of developing general AI is insanely horrifying from the beginning.

One of the parent comments.

Such absolutist comments leave no room whatsoever for venturing into AGI.

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t0slink t1_jdkq5c1 wrote

Nah, full speed ahead please. With enough development, a cure for cancer, aging, and all manner of devastating human ailments could happen in this decade.

It is senseless to cut off a pathway that could literally save and improve tens of billions of lives over the next few decades because you're scared it can't be done correctly.

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t0slink t1_jb4alc0 wrote

> Do you think that a Chinese company would respect any privacy law that the US government passes?

By definition, the company would have to follow the law or it would simply be delisted. The US is no stranger to delisting foreign companies for illegal activity.

It is also easy to verify whether these companies are following the law, at least with regards to CCPA or GDPR.

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t0slink t1_jb469ux wrote

As pointed out, even your "mainstream articles" literally don't support your claim anywhere in them.

When asked for evidence to support the very simple claim that "G/FB sell your data," you have come up with none whatsoever.

If it's such a foregone and obvious conclusion, surely you must have plenty of sources. Please do share them. You'd certainly be able to sue for a handsome amount if you could actually prove it.

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t0slink t1_jb44n7l wrote

I am a cybersecurity engineer, and your claims are completely wrong. Most of your claims aren't even possible on any modern smartphone.

> They record you in your home talking through Alexa and Google Home

They explicitly need a warrant to this. A warrant from a farce of a secret court with no oversight, but it's misleading to say they do this to everyone.

> 1st when you agree to use the app you give them 100% control over your device.

Now the bullshittery begins. Absolutely not the case.

> they can take all your pics, videos anything on your phone

Not true at all. You explicitly have to let it.

> They can turn on your camera and mic whenever they want to record.

Ditto. Not possible unless you explitly give it permission.

> the Chinese govt can spy on you at your job. They can record you talking and take video.

Lmao fuck no, this simply isn't possible. Please learn how modern smartphone OSes work.


You have some valid points about government spying. But then you go completely off-the-rails into fantasy land when it comes to imagining what TikTok can do. Android and iOS simply are not dumb enough to allow any app to take control of your phone like you suggest.

Please stop using your sales position to try to convince people you know what you're talking about. You don't. And that's okay - I'm sure you were a great salesperson, but please don't spread fear, unrest, and despair about stuff you don't understand.

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t0slink t1_jb4436s wrote

Fog Reveal's data is purchased from data brokers. However, neither Facebook nor Google sell to data brokers. In fact, they don't sell your data to any third parties.

However these data brokers are getting your device ID, it's not through FB/G.

You still haven't provided any source that shows that FB/G sell your data.

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t0slink t1_jb3z5dc wrote

TikTok also shares with the NSA. This was the whole point of moving the app to Oracle datacenters with tight access control and connection auditing. Oracle closely cooperates with the NSA. So yes, the NSA effectively has unfettered access to TikTok.

I suspect this is less of a national security issue at this point and more of an attempt to force a sale of TikTok to a US entity, strengthening our position in adtech. Alternatively, this is an attempt to kill TikTok entirely, accomplishing the same strengthening of our own adtech industry.

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t0slink t1_jb3xx12 wrote

No, your comment is false.

Google and Facebook don't sell your data, this is a misinformed Reddit meme. Your data is literally their secret sauce, it's the most valuable thing these companies have.

These companies sell ads using your data. They keep your data itself close to their chest, because it is what generates ongoing revenue for them. They are not data brokers at all, and they wouldn't do something so stupid as selling their most valuable asset to data brokers.

FB/G also don't sell data to the NSA, rather they are forced to implement backdoors (PRISM) with gag orders (NSLs). Sometimes the NSA gives them token compensation for the engineering effort, but it's not obligated to. The NSA also doesn't really need their compliance to begin with, to get into their systems.

Source: am a security engineer that has worked for most of Big Tech at this point.

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