Sure I'm definitely not more than a beginner, I need to look into it! I'm already glad to have a wide angle whenever I'm in some space like a forest, perfect for that

I'm into photography but not enough to actually carry a dedicated, bigger and cumbersome camera on me, especially when going hiking. So any advancement on phone camera optical zooms is exciting for me ! Already have a x2 optical zoom lens on my phone and it's not enough, wide angles don't work on landscape photography

Not in every situation at all. Landscape photography for example requires much more optical zoom than the wide angles that are on cameras. Buying a phone with x2 optical zoom was already a big boost to my photography during hikes and it still is FAR from enough to take the pictures you'd want to take with a real DLSR, going up to x30 and the like for satisfying pictures.

And this is exactly what they're going hard on, thank fuck. Wide and ultra wide don't need any more progress. I still don't want to go on hikes with a big camera, it's too cumbersome

That's interesting to learn about, thanks !

The crazy part is how english police actually entered the embassy grounds to pull this guy out, which they are technically not allowed to do, I think ?

How the fuck is that related AT ALL to the Chinese embassy beating up someone in the UK ? What are you trying to say ? That it's somehow justified ? What reason do you have to change the subject ?